After knocking Theon unconscious, Ramsay's men have control of Winterfell, but rather than preserve it for the Starks, they plunder the place and burn it to the ground. We bring all of this up to ask simply: Why? Why does he burn Winterfell if the Boltons are supposedly loyal to the Starks?
Why does he kill Ser Rodrik instead of helping him? We'll have to see how this character develops in later volumes, but we're going to hazard a guess right now: Ramsay is a sadist and a sociopath, pure and simple. Like the Joker , he's the kind of guy who just wants to watch the world burn. But what about his father, Roose Bolton? What's his end game? Well, we can't say. As of now, he seems to be on Robb Stark's side, but there are hints that this might not be the case.
What we can say about Roose is that he is a precise and cold man. He manages to take Harrenhal with little risk to his own knights by buying the loyalty of Vargo Hoat. Once castellan, Roose orders every man who officially worked for the Lannisters killed and puts their tarred heads along the battlements You know, to send a message.
Theon: Jon would have me killed the moment I stepped through the gate. Sansa: I won't let him. I'll tell him the truth about Bran and Rickon. Theon: And the truth about the farm boys I killed in their place? And the truth about Sir Rodrick who I beheaded? And the truth about Robb who I betrayed? Sansa: When you take the Black, all your crimes are forgiven. Theon: I don't want to be forgiven.
I can't even make amends to your family for the things I've done. Theon : You act as if I volunteered to go! You gave me away , if you remember?! The day you bent the knee to Robert Baratheon!
After he crushed you! Did you " take what was yours ", then?! Eunuchs Are Evil : Averted. The horrific torture and mind-breaking he suffers alongside castration by Ramsay's hands gets some sympathy he lost when he went off the rails to please his father.
He's genuinely disgusted when he finds out that the woman he's been hitting on is his sister. Incest seems to be one of the few things he won't do. Face Death with Dignity : He attempts to do this at the finale of Season 2, planning to charge into battle against the Northern forces that have come for him and kill as many men as he can before he dies.
Instead, his own men knock him out and sell him to the enemy. He then spends several years in hell In the finale of Season 3, his final desperate to cling to his name — and more than his name, his identity as a Greyjoy, a descendant of kings and warriors — in the face of Ramsay's increasingly brutal beatings has shades of this.
He finally accomplishes this in Season 8, bravely sacrificing his life to try to save Bran from the White Walkers. He immensely regrets it. Failed a Spot Check : He probably should have spent more time listening to Maester Luwin about the other Houses and their respective sigils since, despite being flayed on an X-shaped cross, he still doesn't figure out who's responsible for torturing him.
Fingore : During his first torture session, a thin blade is slowly forced under one of his fingernails. When Ramsay replaces the torturer and carries on the sessions by himself, his first "game" ends with Theon's pinky finger getting flayed; an experience so painful that Theon is left begging for Ramsay to amputate it altogether.
Later, Theon is seen wearing a bandage over much of his right hand, implying that Ramsay has been doing the same for his other fingers. Subsequent episodes show that Theon still has most of the fingers on his right hand at least. He was able to hold the razor with that hand when giving Ramsay a shave, and there's a closeup of a glove being put on his hand before he's sent to Moat Cailin.
Most likely because he wouldn't be much use as a slave if he couldn't hold or carry anything. Flaying Alive : Ramsay skinned parts of him, particularly his hands. Foil : To Jon Snow. Both are raised under the House of Stark. Both suffer from "Well Done, Son! Both are Desperately Looking for a Purpose in Life. The difference is Jon maintains his honor while Theon betrays his adopted family for his blood father who treats him poorly.
Jon is loved by his father and half-siblings and grows up with his family while Theon grows up away from his family and has a father who doesn't even like him. To Jaime Lannister. Both start off as cocky young men. At least once, Theon winds up in an incestuous situation with his sister while Jaime and his sister Cersei frequently engage in incest. After experiencing dire circumstances, both are captured and lose a vital body part, which initially breaks them, and both manage to escape. Both return home, but find they no longer have the power and influence they expected upon returning home.
Both share close relationships with their sisters. However, after Theon returns home, Yara is far more supportive of Theon, while Cersei is less so with Jaime. To Tyrion Lannister. Both are desperately trying to earn the love or, at the very least, the respect of their respective fathers, who believe that they are a disappointment and a dishonor for their family name.
While he reminded himself that Benjen Stark and Jon Snow both voluntarily joined the Watch, he fails to consider that Jon might kill him for the latter's atrocities. Ramsay returned with Bolton men - they were welcomed by the other Northerners, but promptly turned on their allies.
What followed was not a true battle but a massacre as Rodrik and his army were killed in their own camp. Having broken the siege, Ramsay rode into Winterfell - only then did he reveal his true identity to Theon. Without provocation, Ramsay punched Theon with a mailed fist so hard that it broke his jaw, then ordered his men to kill the remaining ironborn, as well as the Stark servants and commoners of the castle, and to burn everything.
As he faded out of consciousness, Theon watched helplessly as the Dreadfort soldiers killed Black Lorren and Maester Luwin. The last thing he saw was his horse Smiler, screaming and rearing, his mane on fire. Due to his actions, mainly the alleged killing of Bran and Rickon, Theon earned the hatred of the people in the North, and put himself to shame and disgrace in the eyes of the ironborn. Ever since he is referred to as Theon Turncloak. In the novels, Theon's actions at Winterfell have a significantly greater effect on Robb's eventual downfall than in the show: the alleged murder of Bran and Rickon causes Robb to have sex with Jeyne Westerling out of grief; afterwards, Robb feels honor-bound to marry her, and thus he breaks the alliance with the Freys, setting into motion the chain of events that would ultimately lead to the Red Wedding.
Moreover, the grief over Bran and Rickon causes Catelyn to release Robb's most important captive, and that rash act results in the loss of the Karstark troops, which makes Robb's position even worse. Thus Theon unwittingly serves as a catalyst of the Red Wedding, although he has no idea of it and it has never been his intention very similarly to the way Ramsay unwittingly serves as a catalyst of the mutiny at Castle Black in the novels, by sending the Bastard Letter.
Theon does not appear at all in the third and fourth novels, and he is only mentioned briefly. Roose shows them a piece of skin, claiming it is from the little finger of Theon's left hand, which Ramsay enclosed to the letter Roose received from him. Robb says sharply that he wants Theon's head, not his skin.
Roose suggests to keep Theon alive until the North is liberated from the ironborn in order to demand concessions from them, and Robb reluctantly agrees.
Since Roose turns to be a traitor and most of his report is revealed to be false, it is unclear to the readers if he lied about Theon too. In A Feast for Crows , Theon is mentioned several times. Most of the ironborn, including his sister Asha presume he is dead, but are uncertain since his body was never found. Ramsay never sends a taunting letter to Balon in the books, so no one knows if he is even alive, or if he is, where he is being held.
Ramsay does send a warning message to Asha, to which he encloses a piece of Theon's skin not any body part without specifying Theon's status, but it happens much later. Neither Asha nor anyone else ever intend to try to rescue him.
Asha herself actually did return to Winterfell with a few soldiers after the Bolton army withdrew, in the hope that Theon may have survived by hiding, but all they found were badly mutilated bodies, which convinced Asha that Theon was probably dead. Even if she knew that he was alive, and specifically at the Dreadfort, the Boltons' castle is so strong and located on the other side of the entire continent that it was actually logistically impossible to mount an assault on it with a few longships.
Theon's torture by Ramsay is only revealed in flashbacks throughout the fifth novel, but the TV series chose to present these events in the chronological order that they happened. Had they done it in the order that the books did, Theon would have disappeared after the Season 2 finale, and only reappeared again in the Season 5 premiere.
The books don't directly state that Ramsay castrated Theon, though it was vaguely implied that he had.
Ramsay's torture of Theon serves no real logical purpose, and he is only doing it out of pure sadism. He basically just picked Theon at random - indeed, part of Ramsay's sadistic glee in torturing people is outright gloating that it isn't happening for any reason whatsoever. The only possible reason to keep Theon alive instead of simply killing him, but not inform the ironborn that he was held captive, might have been to throw the ironborn into internal conflict over who exactly Balon's heir was as both Asha and Theon's uncles felt they were actually Balon's heirs, due to the unusual succession laws in the Iron Islands.
Even if Ramsay emasculated Theon in the books, this doesn't necessarily mean that he cannot "further the Greyjoy line. He also had sex with the Captain's daughter in the books who outright wanted him to take her as his salt wife , and specifically joked to her that if she became pregnant, it would be an honor to have a future king's bastard. So far in the books, however, there has been no mention of Theon fathering any known bastards.
Theon's story is largely the same as portrayed in the fifth season. Theon knows immediately that it is not really Arya, and suspects that the Boltons have kept him alive because they need him to confirm to the Northern lords that it is her since Theon is one of the few people still living who could positively identify Arya.
Ergo, Theon ends up helping Jeyne escape from Winterfell, aided by a disguised Mance Rayder and his six spearwives. During the escape, Jeyne screams and accidentally gives away their position. Mance and the spearwives stay behind to buy them time, and Theon and Jeyne jump off the castle walls. They survive the fall and manage to reach the approaching army of Stannis Baratheon , and Theon is re-united with his sister Asha, who does not even recognize him.
For the first time in years, he introduces himself as Theon Greyjoy rather than Reek. Theon's physical appearance has changed extremely during his imprisonment at the Dreadfort, to the point that even his sister cannot recognize him: he looks like he has aged many years; has lost three stones 42 lbs.
As a result, Theon cannot chew solid food, cannot use a bow, and hobbles grotesquely. When Asha sees him, she thinks he is some toothless old man, thinner than a scarecrow, his face resembling a skull. Theon lives in constant fear of his cruel master.
He knows that no matter how he acts - defiantly or obediently - Ramsay will torture him, simply because he can. He keeps reminding himself that his name is Reek, and suppresses any memories of his former life. After his unsuccessful attempt to escape with Kyra, whenever there seems to be a chance of getting away - Theon quickly dismisses it, certain that it is one of Ramsay's cruel games.
Theon loses track of time during his imprisonment. It seems to him that years, maybe decades, passed since he was brought to Dreadfort. Only when Ramsay squires, "Big" Walder and "Little" Walder Frey, come to take him to Ramsay - he realizes that only several months passed. Theon is totally unaware of the events outside Dreadfort, among them his father's death and the kingsmoot. Even if he knew, it probably wouldn't matter to him, because he had much more urgent things to worry about - like his body parts.
Theon's life means nothing to him. He wouldn't commit suicide but welcomes any chance for a swift end to his miserable existence like the time he approaches Moat Cailin, totally exposed to arrows.
When he realizes Stannis intends to kill him, he finds the thought queerly comforting; he urges Stannis to do it quickly before Ramsay arrives. In one aspect Theon has not changed at all - morally. He muses that he should have died with Robb, but it is his only regret. Other than that, he does not feel even the slightest remorse or regret about of the atrocities he committed like the extremely brutal rape of Kyra , and does not feel any sorrow about any of his victims.
He does not take responsibility for any of his vile deeds and never blames himself for his predicament, only others - his sister, father, Ramsay. He even blames the servants of Winterfell for not assisting him to hunt down the Stark boys, thinking how much he was "kind" to them. Generally, he sees himself as a poor innocent victim who never harmed anyone and does not deserve the suffering he has been through.
The only of Theon's victims that he acknowledges as such are the miller's sons, whom he dismisses nonchalantly as " It was not Bran we killed. It was not Rickon. They were only miller's sons. Theon has not even abandoned his despicable habit of kicking dead bodies: in the beginning of the series he kicked the severed head of the deserter , laughing as if it was a ball; long afterward, when he came to Moat Cailin, he kicked twice a dead ironborn.
Theon's lack of remorse is shown also in his POV chapter of the sixth book: first, he convinces himself that Ramsay forced him to kill the miller's sons. This is a lie, because at that point of the story - Ramsay was not in a position to force Theon to do anything; he suggested that but Theon was the one in charge, and he made the decision, thus the blood of the boys and their mother is on his hands, not Ramsay's, but Theon wouldn't admit that.
Second, he assures Stannis that the North remembers the Red Wedding, the sack of Winterfell , Deepwood Motte and Torrhen's Square - but leaves out the atrocities that he performed the harrying of the Stony Shore and the taking of Winterfell.
Even when Theon is out of Ramsay's grasp, he cannot get rid of the deep fear of him; whenever someone Stannis, Asha refers to Ramsay as " the bastard ", Theon automatically exclaims, "Never call him that!. In the novels, "Reek" was actually the name of Ramsay Snow's servant. His real name might have been "Heke", but he was called "Reek" because he stank like rotting fish, apparently from some kind of medical condition, as the smell lingered no matter how much he bathed.
When Ser Rodrik attempted to arrest Ramsay, he quickly switched clothes with his servant, so Rodrik ended up killing the servant while Ramsay passed himself off as Reek, and went back with them to Winterfell just before Theon's ironborn captured it.
Ramsay later mockingly tortured Theon physically and psychologically until he was brainwashed into thinking he actually was Reek, and denying he was ever Theon. Or rather, Theon constantly reminds himself in his inner POV that "I am Reek", because when he showed any hint during his torture that he still considered himself "Theon" Ramsay would flay him again Ramsay didn't just want him to say the words "I am Reek", but wanted him to even stop consciously thinking of himself as "Theon Greyjoy".
This subplot was cut from the TV series for screentime, and instead has Ramsay simply come up with the name "Reek" on a whim to demean and dehumanize Theon, noting that he stinks from being in the dungeons for so long, but Theon comes to insist that his name is Reek partly out of regret for the atrocities he committed against the Starks as Theon Greyjoy. Asha has been taken captive by King Stannis following the liberation of Deepwood Motte.
By that stage, the Kingsmoot has already occurred and Euron is already leading the ironborn invasion of the Reach. In a reversal of their encounter in the books, Asha does not recognize her brother, who has been battered and disfigured by Ramsay Bolton. When Asha realizes that scrawny, stinky, toothless old man is in fact Theon, she reacts with shock and disgust.
In a sample chapter from The Winds of Winter , Theon is put in chains by Stannis, who questions him about the Boltons' strength and numbers. Theon provides as much information as he can, and warns Stannis not to underestimate Ramsay. Stannis plans to execute Theon eventually, in order to secure the loyalty of the remaining Northern lords, who are furious at Theon for apparently murdering Bran and Rickon.
Theon reacts indifferently, not even trying to tell Stannis the truth that he actually didn't kill Bran and Rickon, actually hoping that Stannis will kill him and end his suffering, and partially out of guilt for betraying Robb to the point that in A Dance with Dragons , Theon's inner thoughts reveal that he believes he should have been at the Red Wedding , where he would have died valiantly at Robb's side and not ended up living as Ramsay's broken slave.
Asha pleads with Stannis to spare her brother's life. When that fails, she petitions Stannis to spare him an agonizing death through fire by beheading him instead.
In the television series, Theon escapes the North, returns home and travels to Meereen, implying that in the books, he will not be killed by Stannis and may very well escape captivity along with Asha, possibly around the same time as Stannis's possible coming death in the books, though it remains to be seen, as Theon's role in the series has been merged with Victarion's from the novels.
Even if Theon somehow escapes, the chances that he'll die similarly to his analogous show character are extremely low: he is a total wreck, due to Ramsay's torturing, so he cannot fight or shoot arrows; more importantly, he does not feel any remorse about the atrocities he committed, and does not feel that he must make up for them.
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Play Sound. This article is about the son of Balon Greyjoy. For other uses, see: Theon. Be the right kind of person. But I never knew what that meant. It always seemed that there was an impossible choice I had to make. Stark or Greyjoy. We've been Lords of the Iron Islands for hundreds of years. There's not a family in Westeros that can look down on us.
Not even the Lannisters. Theon riding in the North. Theon in the field with Robb in " Baelor. Theon in " The Ghost of Harrenhal. Theon and Dagmer in "The Ghost of Harrenhal. Theon giving a speech to his men in " Valar Morghulis ". Theon with Sansa in Season 6. Spoken by Theon. Theon Greyjoy : " Are you afraid? You gave me away if you remember.
The day you bent the knee to Robert Baratheon. After he crushed you! Did you take what was yours then? Your boy! Your last boy! You gave me away like I was some dog you didn't want anymore! And now you curse me because I've come home!? Theon Greyjoy : " Ser Rodrik, it grieves me that we meet as foes. Rodrik Cassel : " King Robb thought of you as a brother! They died fighting Stark men!
Men like you! Lord Stark raised you among his own sons! I was his hostage! Taken from my home! Theon Greyjoy : " Any last words, old man? Now you are truly lost.
Theon Greyjoy : " The first time I saw Winterfell, it looked like something that had been here for thousands of years, and would be here for thousands of years after I was dead.
I saw it and I thought, 'Of course Ned Stark crushed our rebellion and killed my brothers. Everybody in this frozen pile of shit has loved reminding me of that. You know what it's like to be told how lucky you are to be someone's prisoner?
To be told how much you owe them? And then to go back home to your real father Maester Luwin : " The Night's Watch is an ancient, honorable order. You'll have opportunities there. Things I never imagined myself doing. Maester Luwin : " I've known you for many years, Theon Greyjoy.
You're not the man you are pretending to be. Not yet. I've gone too far to pretend to be anything else. Theon Greyjoy : " You hear that?
That's the mating call of the Northmen. They want to fuck us! Well, I haven't had a good fuck in weeks, I'm ready for one! They say every Ironborn man is worth a dozen from the mainland. You think they're right?! We die bleeding from a hundred wounds, with arrows in our necks and spears in our guts They will sing about the Battle of Winterfell until the Iron Islands have slipped beneath the waves!
Every man, woman and child will know who we were and how long we stood! Ironborn warriors will cry out our names as they leap onto the shores of Seagard and Faircastle. Theon Greyjoy : " Why would you risk your life for me?
I was only a boy when they took you away. My father brought me and my brothers up to the bluff so we could watch the ship that carried you off. I remember the look on my father's face when he told us, "That's Balon Greyjoy's last living son", and those are the words I heard over and over again when I saw what they were doing to you.
Theon Greyjoy : " I was just thinking how jealous I was when my father told Yara to take this place. He didn't trust me. Thought I was a Stark. I could never be a Stark. Robb Stark always reminded me of that.
All he had to do was Be who he was born to be. His life fit him better than his clothes. How could someone like that ever be a brother to me? Theon Greyjoy : " I could never be a Stark.
But ironborn, that's what I was born to be. I paid the iron price for Winterfell. I murdered those boys. Just some poor orphans living with a farmer. I let Dagmer slit their throats and I let him burn the bodies My real father lost his head in King's Landing.
I made a choice, and I chose wrong. My name Theon Greyjoy : " Sansa of the House Stark comes here to be wed. A woman grown, trueborn and noble. She comes to beg the blessings of the Gods.
Who comes to claim her? Who gives her? Theon Greyjoy : " Do what he says! Do what he says or he'll hurt you! All day I'm locked in this room and every night he comes! Cookie banner We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. By choosing I Accept , you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies.
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